On the web the other day, an Atheist posting in a religion forum claimed that Jesus was not crucified through the hands because the Romans didn't perform crucifixions, especially through the hands.
I answered, "Oh, really?" and offered this link:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2064920,00.html
The Atheist got flustered and answered, "How does this prove the Bible stories were true?"
It proved that the Bible is right and you are wrong about crucifixions, Mr. Atheist.
That's all I needed to do.
Saturday, April 7, 2012
Saturday, March 17, 2012
Those Nutty American Atheists Are At It Again
Check out his billboard, which Blair Scott, the Communication Director for American Atheists, claimed during a radio interview with host Michael Medved (a practicing Jew), was not intended to target believers:
American Atheists, an organization that stands on a bedrock of intellectual dishonesty, is once again stirring up trouble in an attempt to draw attention to itself. In the same radio interview, Mr. Underwood claimed that American Atheists' main focus is separation of church and state issues.
I'd say that posting a billboard in a Jewish neighborhood in an attempt to create disbelief goes a little beyond mere Constitutional issues, proving once again that American Atheists and their staff aren't exactly what they claim to be.
Unfortunately, the statement "You know it's a myth" is an informal logical fallacy called the argumentum ad populum, a.k.a. an Appeal to the People. In reality, the weak argument here is "Aw, come on, everybody knows it's all a bunch of baloney".
Only someone ignorant of the rules of logic would make such a claim as "You know it's a myth". And and only an ignorant person would believe that such a stupid argument is valid.
So, what is the intended audience for this billboard? The ignorant and the stupid? And why the Hebrew? Is it for all those 'ignorant' immigrants who can't read or speak English?
American Atheists are fond of making such bare assertions as "god is phony", without feeling any need to defend their position. They just hide behind the Burden of Proof Fallacy.
I would love to see ANY representative of American Atheists attempt to debate their reasoning against a freshman Philosophy and Logic major from any university. It would be an adventure in comedy as the 'intelligent' atheist gets hammered down by the philosphy student.
I suggest that if American Atheists wants to get rid of myths, they could start by taking down this puff piece about the founder, Madalyn Murray O'Hair, who in her personal life was far from the "selfless servant" the organization portrays her to be.
Perhaps American Atheists should put their money where their mouths are, and use the bucks they waste on dumb billboards to feed some poor kids.
Naw...........
American Atheists, an organization that stands on a bedrock of intellectual dishonesty, is once again stirring up trouble in an attempt to draw attention to itself. In the same radio interview, Mr. Underwood claimed that American Atheists' main focus is separation of church and state issues.
I'd say that posting a billboard in a Jewish neighborhood in an attempt to create disbelief goes a little beyond mere Constitutional issues, proving once again that American Atheists and their staff aren't exactly what they claim to be.
Unfortunately, the statement "You know it's a myth" is an informal logical fallacy called the argumentum ad populum, a.k.a. an Appeal to the People. In reality, the weak argument here is "Aw, come on, everybody knows it's all a bunch of baloney".
Only someone ignorant of the rules of logic would make such a claim as "You know it's a myth". And and only an ignorant person would believe that such a stupid argument is valid.
So, what is the intended audience for this billboard? The ignorant and the stupid? And why the Hebrew? Is it for all those 'ignorant' immigrants who can't read or speak English?
American Atheists are fond of making such bare assertions as "god is phony", without feeling any need to defend their position. They just hide behind the Burden of Proof Fallacy.
I would love to see ANY representative of American Atheists attempt to debate their reasoning against a freshman Philosophy and Logic major from any university. It would be an adventure in comedy as the 'intelligent' atheist gets hammered down by the philosphy student.
I suggest that if American Atheists wants to get rid of myths, they could start by taking down this puff piece about the founder, Madalyn Murray O'Hair, who in her personal life was far from the "selfless servant" the organization portrays her to be.
Perhaps American Atheists should put their money where their mouths are, and use the bucks they waste on dumb billboards to feed some poor kids.
Naw...........
Monday, December 26, 2011
Atheists and the Dishonest Challenge
While many Atheists claim they are willing to look at evidence of the existence of God, then qualify that by adding qualifiers such as:
"Things that are not evidence for God"...
1. Quoting Bible Scripture
2. Claiming your cousin was healed in a church
The Atheist starts out by denying the testimony of people who were witnesses to extraordinary events, whether it's from historical documents or recent events.
In fact, nothing barring a personal special visit from the Almighty Creator of the Universe will please the Atheist who makes this kind of statement.
The fact is, Atheists, despite what they claim, have their minds made up and really have no interest in investigating whether or not God exists.
This is just more evidence of the intellectual dishonesty of the the typical Atheist, who claims to be a seeker of truth, but limits where that truth can be discovered.
"Things that are not evidence for God"...
1. Quoting Bible Scripture
2. Claiming your cousin was healed in a church
The Atheist starts out by denying the testimony of people who were witnesses to extraordinary events, whether it's from historical documents or recent events.
In fact, nothing barring a personal special visit from the Almighty Creator of the Universe will please the Atheist who makes this kind of statement.
The fact is, Atheists, despite what they claim, have their minds made up and really have no interest in investigating whether or not God exists.
This is just more evidence of the intellectual dishonesty of the the typical Atheist, who claims to be a seeker of truth, but limits where that truth can be discovered.
Thursday, October 20, 2011
More Nutty Things Atheists Say
The Village Atheist crowd seems to be a bottomless pit of silly comments, most of them just blind and incorrect assumptions based on a cartoonish view of Christianity, such as what you get from TV shows and movies.
I've been told about how I give away my money to"the men in the funny hats", even though the ushers in my church are not known for any unusual headgear.
I've been told I kneel before the "stone slut" (an obvious derogatory reference to the statues of Mary found in a Catholic church. I'm not Catholic, either).
I'm told I'm not able to think for myself, yet I'm not the one parroting the same silly comments all over the internet, as these Village Atheists are fond of doing.
I'm told I follow a religion invented by "goat herders and con men". Gee, I'm a Christian, and as far as I know, Jesus and His Disciples were mostly tradesmen.
I'm told I worship a "zombie" (another cartoonish representation which really has nothing to do with resurrection).
I'm told "taxing the churches will solve the world hunger problem", yet I've never seen any hard numbers to support this.
The really disturbing thing is that the people uttering this nonsense actually believe it.
More's the pity.
I've been told about how I give away my money to"the men in the funny hats", even though the ushers in my church are not known for any unusual headgear.
I've been told I kneel before the "stone slut" (an obvious derogatory reference to the statues of Mary found in a Catholic church. I'm not Catholic, either).
I'm told I'm not able to think for myself, yet I'm not the one parroting the same silly comments all over the internet, as these Village Atheists are fond of doing.
I'm told I follow a religion invented by "goat herders and con men". Gee, I'm a Christian, and as far as I know, Jesus and His Disciples were mostly tradesmen.
I'm told I worship a "zombie" (another cartoonish representation which really has nothing to do with resurrection).
I'm told "taxing the churches will solve the world hunger problem", yet I've never seen any hard numbers to support this.
The really disturbing thing is that the people uttering this nonsense actually believe it.
More's the pity.
Monday, August 22, 2011
Lame Atheist Argument: No Eyewitness Gospel Authors
Atheists like to claim that none of the Gospel Authors were eyewitnesses to the events in the Gospels, therefore, the Gospels are just "hearsay".
Problem Number 1: John's Gospel. Contained in the last chapter, verses 21-24, is evidence to the contrary. Whether or not you choose to believe the Gospel Author was John (and deny the scholarly consensus that has been accepted for 1000 years), the verses clear state that the Gospel Author was also an eyewitness to the events he described.
Going further, if you look at Chapter 19, verses 25-27, you'll see that the Gospel Author was also an eyewitness to the Crucifixion.
If Atheists wish to offer this argument, they are now in the uncomfortable position of proving that the Author of John's Gospel was a liar.
As far as "hearsay" goes: is a Court Reporter's offical record just "hearsay"? The Reporter is recording the words of eyewitnesses in many instances.
The Authors of the Synoptic Gospels were also like court recorders, writing down testimony from actual eyewitnesses.
The "hearsay" brush-off by so many Atheists is just a cop-out based on their ignorance of history. Otherwise, to follow their logic, ALL ancient historical documents would be "hearsay" and we'd know virtually nothing about the ancient world.
A certain amount of trust is both rational and logical, until contradictory evidence can completely disprove the claims of a previous record.
History scholars operate quite safely under that assumption.
Problem Number 1: John's Gospel. Contained in the last chapter, verses 21-24, is evidence to the contrary. Whether or not you choose to believe the Gospel Author was John (and deny the scholarly consensus that has been accepted for 1000 years), the verses clear state that the Gospel Author was also an eyewitness to the events he described.
Going further, if you look at Chapter 19, verses 25-27, you'll see that the Gospel Author was also an eyewitness to the Crucifixion.
If Atheists wish to offer this argument, they are now in the uncomfortable position of proving that the Author of John's Gospel was a liar.
As far as "hearsay" goes: is a Court Reporter's offical record just "hearsay"? The Reporter is recording the words of eyewitnesses in many instances.
The Authors of the Synoptic Gospels were also like court recorders, writing down testimony from actual eyewitnesses.
The "hearsay" brush-off by so many Atheists is just a cop-out based on their ignorance of history. Otherwise, to follow their logic, ALL ancient historical documents would be "hearsay" and we'd know virtually nothing about the ancient world.
A certain amount of trust is both rational and logical, until contradictory evidence can completely disprove the claims of a previous record.
History scholars operate quite safely under that assumption.
Monday, August 8, 2011
Atheist Double Standards are SO Funny!
The prime example: Craigslist forums.
Log into the Craigslist Atheist Forum and post about your faith, or, perish the thought, "evangelize", and in short order some Atheist will tell you to get out of that forum. Seems that the Atheist Forum is ONLY for Atheism and anybody who speaks positively of religion is a "troll" and should be banned from making posts. Posting about God in a positive sense just isn't "proper" in THEIR forum.
YET:
At any time in the Religious Forum, you'll find several Atheists making posts that insult and belittle Christians, Christianity, Mormonism, or the JW faith. Seems it's A-O-K for Atheists to enter a religious forum and promote Atheism (through the insulting of religion). They call it "religious discussion" (although last time I checked, I didn't see much 'discussion' among all the childish taunts, F-bombs, and pictures of Jesus riding a dinosaur).
You see, the Atheists will remind you that the Religious Forum isn't strictly a "Christian" form (of course, it isn't an Atheism Forum... they already have one that they jealously protect). The Atheists will also remind you have a "right" to go to any forum they choose (if YOU, however, attempt to support Christianity in "their" forum, you will be harassed until you leave or they will have you banned by the Admin Staff).
See how it works?
You, the believer, had better follow the rules of the Craigslist Terms of Use and 'Netiquette'. Atheists don't feel bound by any such rules. If they can get away with it without being banned, sued or arrested, they're going to do it often.
Aren't Atheists and their sense of moral relativism just wonderful?
Log into the Craigslist Atheist Forum and post about your faith, or, perish the thought, "evangelize", and in short order some Atheist will tell you to get out of that forum. Seems that the Atheist Forum is ONLY for Atheism and anybody who speaks positively of religion is a "troll" and should be banned from making posts. Posting about God in a positive sense just isn't "proper" in THEIR forum.
YET:
At any time in the Religious Forum, you'll find several Atheists making posts that insult and belittle Christians, Christianity, Mormonism, or the JW faith. Seems it's A-O-K for Atheists to enter a religious forum and promote Atheism (through the insulting of religion). They call it "religious discussion" (although last time I checked, I didn't see much 'discussion' among all the childish taunts, F-bombs, and pictures of Jesus riding a dinosaur).
You see, the Atheists will remind you that the Religious Forum isn't strictly a "Christian" form (of course, it isn't an Atheism Forum... they already have one that they jealously protect). The Atheists will also remind you have a "right" to go to any forum they choose (if YOU, however, attempt to support Christianity in "their" forum, you will be harassed until you leave or they will have you banned by the Admin Staff).
See how it works?
You, the believer, had better follow the rules of the Craigslist Terms of Use and 'Netiquette'. Atheists don't feel bound by any such rules. If they can get away with it without being banned, sued or arrested, they're going to do it often.
Aren't Atheists and their sense of moral relativism just wonderful?
Saturday, May 7, 2011
Atheists Can Be So Unintentionally Comical
Atheists educated about religion on the Internet are so unintentionally funny. Their base assumptions about believers are a self parody. For all you atheists reading this, here are a few pointers to help you along in your (and I use the term loosely) "interactions" with believers.
1. We're not all Catholics. And not being Catholics doesn't automatically make the rest of us Mormons or members of Westboro Baptist.
2. We don't automatically believe everything we're told. Otherwise we'd believe everything you Atheists utter.
3. We believers ARE capable of "critical thinking". Atheists just hate when that thinking is directed at them.
4. Yes, we know that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy are really Mom and Dad.
5. We all know about the comparisons between the Egyptian god Horus and Christ. We hear that constantly. Here's a reality check for you: Bill Maher, the atheistic host of the crockumentary "Religulous", is really a comedian, and has no education, in religion, history, or philosophy. I don't hire a plumber to fix computers, get it?
6. No, you don't know more about my faith than I do. You Atheists love to pull out that shopworn survey which claims atheists are smarter on religion than believers. You need to read the fine print: the survey showed EVANGELICALS tested better on their own faith than Atheists tested on evnagelical Christianity. I'm an evangelical believer, and I have studied the Bible on a personal level for over 20 years. Shut up.
7. God doesn't fail to exist simply because you Atheists say He doesn't, and the "you can't prove a negative" response doesn't place you on a higher intellectual plane.
8. Not all believers believe the earth is 10,000 years old, and that controversy doesn't erase God out of existence.
9. No, Atheists are not all nice people. Their nasty comments are spread all over the internet, and it's no mere coincidence that worst, most oppressive regimes on earth were run by Atheists.
10. Believers enjoy sex, too. If we choose not be obsessed with it, that doesn't automatically make us Puritans.
Gee, I hope this helps. Perhaps if more Atheists got past these truly lame assumptions, converstaions on the Internet could be much more productive.
1. We're not all Catholics. And not being Catholics doesn't automatically make the rest of us Mormons or members of Westboro Baptist.
2. We don't automatically believe everything we're told. Otherwise we'd believe everything you Atheists utter.
3. We believers ARE capable of "critical thinking". Atheists just hate when that thinking is directed at them.
4. Yes, we know that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy are really Mom and Dad.
5. We all know about the comparisons between the Egyptian god Horus and Christ. We hear that constantly. Here's a reality check for you: Bill Maher, the atheistic host of the crockumentary "Religulous", is really a comedian, and has no education, in religion, history, or philosophy. I don't hire a plumber to fix computers, get it?
6. No, you don't know more about my faith than I do. You Atheists love to pull out that shopworn survey which claims atheists are smarter on religion than believers. You need to read the fine print: the survey showed EVANGELICALS tested better on their own faith than Atheists tested on evnagelical Christianity. I'm an evangelical believer, and I have studied the Bible on a personal level for over 20 years. Shut up.
7. God doesn't fail to exist simply because you Atheists say He doesn't, and the "you can't prove a negative" response doesn't place you on a higher intellectual plane.
8. Not all believers believe the earth is 10,000 years old, and that controversy doesn't erase God out of existence.
9. No, Atheists are not all nice people. Their nasty comments are spread all over the internet, and it's no mere coincidence that worst, most oppressive regimes on earth were run by Atheists.
10. Believers enjoy sex, too. If we choose not be obsessed with it, that doesn't automatically make us Puritans.
Gee, I hope this helps. Perhaps if more Atheists got past these truly lame assumptions, converstaions on the Internet could be much more productive.
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